Nach dem ersten Band war ich sehr gespannt darauf weiter zu lesen wie es mit Ari und Dante weiter geht. Ich hab mitgefiebert, mich mit gefreut, den Schmerz mit denen geteilte und musste das Buch an einer bestimmten Stelle weglegen weil mir die Tränen kamen. Wundervolle Geschichte ❤️❤️

Band 1 hat mich schon komplett abgeholt und auch Band 2 konnte mich begeistern. Man begleitet Aristotle und Dante wieder durch ihren Teenager Alltag und beim Erwachsen werden. Es passiert per se nicht besonders viel und es ist nicht künstlich dramatisiert. Es geht eher um die kleinen Momente und die großen Entscheidungen, die man mit 17 treffen muss. Es geht um Veränderungen, die im Leben passieren, egal ob positiv oder negativ. Die Gespräche sind mal tiefsinnig, mal völlig verquer und lustig, aber immer von Bedeutung. Obwohl das Buch über 500 Seiten hat wird es nicht langweilig oder langatmig, jede Seite hat ihre Daseinsberechtigung. Es gab ein paar Kapitel, in denen etwas in Aristotles Leben passiert, das mich sehr mitgenommen hat, da mir mit 17 in etwa das gleiche passiert ist. Ich habe seitenweise Rotz und Wasser geheult, weshalb ich eine Triggerwarnung für sehr wichtig und sinnvoll erachte. Es ist kein klassisches Young Adult Buch, aber ich würde es trotzdem jedem Leser, egal welcher Altersgruppe empfehlen 🫶🏼

Hab das Buch sehr geliebt. Ich habe Kritikpunkte, zum Beispiel dass manche Handlungen ein bisschen aus dem Nichts passiert sind und dann vergessen wurden. Das Buch ist auch einfach sehr lang. Das ändert aber nichts an meiner Bewertung, weil es mein Leseerlebnis nicht negativ beeinflusst hat. Die Sprache war wieder einfach, aber trotzdem poetisch. Ari hat sich sehr entwickelt und ich habe mitgefühlt. Musste sehr viel weinen, als sein Vater gestorben ist 🤧. Definitiv noch ein Highlight für dieses Jahr. Leseempfehlung ❤️✊

Mit “Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World” nimmt uns Benjamin Sáenz mit zurück in die Welt von Ari, der mehr als alles andere Dante liebt, in einer Zeit, in der ihre Liebe keine Zukunft hat. Während Band eins voll von dem Gefühl eines verlorenen, gestohlenen Sommers voller nostalgischer Gefühle ist, wird Ari in Band zwei erwachsen. Die Sommernächte auf der Ladefläche seines alten Pickup-Trucks werden weniger, das Leben von Ari und Dante ernster. Ihre Geschichte ist tiefsinniger, aber auch hoffnungsvoll, manchmal kompliziert, weniger leicht und verliebt, manchmal traurig und unfair, aber deswegen nicht weniger real. Aris Reise ins Erwachsenwerden ist voller Poesie und Erkenntnis, aber auch voller Verlust und Schmerz und deswegen ein erstaunliches Porträt. Man muss allerdings anfügen: Das Buch ist recht lang, lebt jedoch an keiner Stelle von spannender Handlung. Der Schreibstil ist zu jeder Zeit flüssig und bildhaft, dennoch reißt die Geschichte nicht immer mit. Wer Action und große Gesten sucht, ist hier falsch. Wer Ruhe, die großen und kleinen Fragen und die Geheimnisse des Universums sucht, der findet jedenfalls einen Teil davon in Ari und Dante.

"The world would be a better place if everyone did more thinking and less talking. There might be a lot less hatred." You can't help yourself but rethink your whole life and the way this world works when you read this book. I absolutely fell in love with every character in this book. You definitely notice that Benjamin Alire Saenz is a poet. He has a very unique and so beautiful way of writing. A lot of the times I found myself crying because of his choice of words. It was a very thought out sequel. Jamie's death was the only part of the book that completely killed me inside and forced me to put the book away. When I read Ari's speach at his father's funeral I broke down for good. I am not sure if I am satisfied with the ending of the book. I absolutely have mixed feelings about the fast pace of Ari's time in Paris. Other than that I can say that I very much enjoyed the book, maybe not as much as the first one but it was even more poetic. I will love Ari, Dante and their families and chosen family forever and will think about them for a long time

I really did love the first book. I fell in love with Dante and Ari. There was no way I couldn’t. I liked reading how their relationship continues, how it grows and changes and how they fight for it. To walk through all the beautiful and sad moments alongside them was a lovely ride. Like others mentioned bevor, the books feels a little lost in the middle, but the beginning and ending is incredibly emotional in many ways. I had a great time reading this book. It’s definetly worth it‘s while.

I have seen many bad reviews about this book, which made me hesitate about reading it, because honestly, I was satisfied with the ending of Aristotle and Dante discover the Secrets of the Universe. But now after finishing this book I am so happy that I did decide to read this bool after all. This book and the characters are just pure comfort to me, I was able to completely dive into the world of Aristotle Mendoza once more and I felt good immediately. Benjamin‘s writing style is very special and unique and I honestly have to compliment him for creating extremely relatable and thought through characters, even though I absolutely do not support him or his actions. Trough this book I felt all possible emotions. Happiness, Joy, but mostly sadness. Reading this in 2021 were it is thankfully allowed to marry a person of the same gender, made me feel so much more sad that Ari and Dante would never be able to expierence that. Ari‘s struggles of coming out to his friends were so easy to understand and reading this book has felt like following a friend through the tough journey of coming out. I enjoyed that we got to see more of Gina and Susie, and the development of Ari‘s and his Dad‘s relationship was so beautiful to read. The short chapters in this book made it, for my personally, so easy to read. The last few chapters before the ending were so sad and definitely broke something deep down in my heart. Before I list my favorite quotes, I just want to say how brave every person of the LGBTQIA+ community is for coming out, because even today there are sadly people in this world that simply can’t except that people should be able to love who they want to love. So to every single person out there who is struggling to come out , or who already came out: You are loved, and you are brave and I’m proud of you ! <3 So know onto my favorite quotes: “You’re the rain and you’re the desert and you’re the eraser that’s making the word ‘loneliness ’ disappear.” “I did find all the secrets of the Universe in your hand. Your hand, Dante.” “My father traced his name on my heart. And his name will remain there. And because his name lives in me, I will be a better man for it. My name is Aristotle Mendoza, and if today you ask me who I am, I will look you in the eye and say to you: I am my fathers son.” “ We danced. We all danced in the desert. We danced in the desert that I love. We danced until sunrise. And that dawn, the sun was shining on the faces of the people I loved. All of them, they were setting the world on fire.” I could go on and on with the quotes and, fun fact, I actually used up all of my blue annotating sticky notes, for sad quotes. There were just to many…

My expectations certainly weren't too high because I didn't even have any to begin with. I don't remember a lot from [b:Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe|12000020|Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe (Aristotle and Dante, #1)|Benjamin Alire Sáenz|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1328320260l/12000020._SY75_.jpg|16964419]. I know I found it to be an okay book, but I didn't love it. I was shocked when the sequel was announced. I considered it quite unnecessary but I wanted to give it a chance even though I had such a horrible time with [b:The Inexplicable Logic of My Life|23447923|The Inexplicable Logic of My Life|Benjamin Alire Sáenz|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1465572387l/23447923._SX50_.jpg|43010768]. Benjamin Alire Sáenz just isn't my author. Despite all of this, I decided to give it a go and even finished the book. And it was probably a waste of time. I'm just glad I read the ebook version of it and paper wasn't wasted for my reading experience. What annoyed me the most were Ari's negative thoughts towards his sexuality. Yes, different times, and yes, the AIDS epidemic happened. But as a queer person, this wasn't an enjoyable reading experience. I don't want to read this kind of book. A few examples? Here we go: - "The world would look at that boy and that girl and smile and think, How sweet. If the world saw me and Dante doing the same thing, the world would grimace and think, Disgusting. " - "See, a gay man is not a real man, and if I'm not a real man, then I can't really be an American." - "Normalcy. There was a word. How could a gay even use that word?" Worst of all, Ari has this conversation with his father: - "I hate being gay." "Well, they have these conversion therapy schools." What kind of father would say this to his son?! And yet Ari claims that he and his dad got closer. What kind of bullshit, honestly... Dante was insufferable and claimed so many things I completely disagree with. - "It's just that you think there's something wrong with someone who doesn't want to have kids. ... Everyone wants to have kids. And everyone wants to have grandchildren." No. This is a YA book. On the one hand, you have this negative portrayal of LGBTQ+ sexualites. On the other hand, you have a 17-year old character claiming that there's something wrong with people who don't want to have children. Now imagine that a teenager reads this. This book is supposed to be for the LGBTQ+ community. But what kind of world does the author portray? I absolutely hate how negative this book is. There's so much wrong with it. On top of it all, the characters talk a lot of bullshit. This book tries so hard to be full of deep and meaningful quotes! - "... he was discovering hands, my hands, and he was discovering a country that was named Ari, and I was discovering a country that was Dante." - "I mean, people are like countries, and me and Gina, and your friend Dante, we're all countries - and maybe you've given your friend Dante a visa. But even if you have, that's just one person. And one person isn't enough. Having friends is like traveling. Gina and I have offered you a visa to travel to our countries whenever you want. So, Ari, when are you going to give us a visa? We want so much to visit you." There were a couple of scenes between Ari and some girls, which I thought to be quite weird. - "She kissed each of us on the cheek - and she did it with the grace of a woman." - "Do you like having a penis? ... Answer the question. Do. You. Like. Having. A. Penis? ... I think apologies for liking having a penis might be in order." I mean... what?! Adding to that, the writing was HORRIBLE. I really don't understand why people love this author. The writing style is so incredibly simple, a 12-year old could have written this book. - "And I kissed him and kissed him. And kissed him. ... I knew what he was saying. He was saying, I love your hand. . Yeah, words could be super overrated." Oh, SURELY words are overrated, that's why you keep repeating the same thing over and over again, right? A couple of think that I consider overdramatic and unnecessary. Ari's father dies. Randomly. In the middle of the book. Of a heart attack. I think his death scene was quite odd and was only included due to shock value because the author couldn't think of a better plot. At the end of the book, Ari and Dante break up because Ari encourages Dante to fly to Paris. Dante seems hurt and ends the relationship. Ari is sad and randomly decided to fly to Paris. They meet in the Louvre and kiss. The end. Honestly, I would have preferred it if the two of them broke up for good. Instead, it was quite a weird ending. All in all, the book was completely unnecessary. I cannot imagine why people love this so much. The plot was non-existent and the writing is very simplistic. There was no build up for the random plot points I mentioned in the spoiler part of the review. The conversations between the characters are extremely unbelievable, since no teenager in the entire world would talk that way. It's full of gay stereotypes. The book is way to long and yet it talks about nothing in particular. It was just an unenjoyable experience.

Ein unglaublich tolles und wichtiges Buch. Der Autor Schaft es absolut Teenager und Teenager-Bezeichnungen perfekt und absolut echt und glaubwürdig darzustellen. Leider hat sich das Buch in der Mitte etwas gezogen und das Ende war etwas schnell. Insgesamt ein tolles Buch und ich lieb Ari und Dante sehr, jeder sollte ihre Geschichte lesen.

very Strong ending, a bit loose in the middle but never the less very well written. just past the first part, but still incredibly good. the two have grown so close to my heart. i'm a little sad that I have the series through. so beautifully written, even if it has dragged here sometimes a bit more than in the first part.

Ich muss echt sagen, dass ich mir nicht einmal 100% sicher war, ob ich mir das Sequel überhaupt kaufe. Genau wie der Autor es in seiner Danksagung beschreibt, war ich mit dem ersten Teil nicht so ganz zufrieden und fande es ein bisschen overhyped. Ich bin sehr dankbar, dass er Autor sich an das Sequel gesetzt hat. Es handelt sich um ein wirklich wunderschönes Buch. Das definitiv mit seinen 500 Seiten gewisse Längen in der Mitte hat und teilweise etwas unnötige Dialoge beinhaltet. Aber gleichzeitig, macht es das ganze auch so echt. Ari und Dante die eher unnötige Diskussionen halten, machen wir das nicht alle mal. Aufjedenfall, ist das Buch wunderschön geschrieben und ich musste mir teils die Tränen verdrücken. Ich fand es um weiten besser, als den ersten Teil. Es wurde einfach so viel mehr gesagt. Die Entwicklung von Ari war sehr schön mitanzusehen und die Vertiefung der Charaktere hätte einfach gefehlt, wenn dieser Band nicht erschienen wäre. Ich hab selbst auch sehr viel mitgenommen aus diesem Buch und es hat mich sehr berührt. Ich glaube man muss in der Stimmung zum Philosophieren sein, wenn man es liest, aber dann verschlingt es einen nur so. :) Ich bin sehr froh, dass wir nochmal mehr von Ari& Dante lesen konnten. Und kann es nur jedem Empfehlen der daran zweifelt das Sequel nach dem ersten Band zu lesen.

Knapp am ersten Teil vorbei, aber trotzdem unfassbar gut. Ich kann es echt nur weiterempfehlen. Die Beiden sind mir so sehr ans Herz gewachsen. Bin ein bisschen traurig, dass ich die Reihe durch habe. So schön geschrieben, auch wenn es sich hier manchmal etwas mehr gezogen hat, als im ersten Teil.

Una historia que creció conmigo, la primera vez que leí "Aristoteles y Dante conocen los secretos del universo" no tenía idea de nada, ni la vida ni el amor (el propio o el romántico), el final pudo darme un empujón al camino al que llegué ahora, tras varios años llega este libro que acompaña a un joven en su camino por entender respuestas a preguntas que los adultos no podriamos responder: ¿que es ser un hombre?, ¿que es el perdón?, ¿que significa amar con todas las letras?, ¿a donde vas?. Es bello, romántico de un modo doloroso por que no sabes a donde va a llevarte la siguiente página. El final no es ni de cerca el mejor, esperaba un cierre acorde a la tempestad hormonal adolescente que viví entre las páginas. Si es el final de la historia me quedo con ese viaje a París.